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RE: Hello All! I'm looking for advice!


  • Subject: RE: Hello All! I'm looking for advice!
  • From: "Pete Church" <yahoo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:33:07 -0000

Paul, Frank,

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Thanks for those responses =96 it was one of those C-BUS issues that I
hadn=
=92t
quite wrapped my head around, and as I=92m possibly just going to install
t=
he
cables at the moment, quite an important one.

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Cheers,

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Pete

Can only speak for CBUS, not any other system...

Cable topology with CBUS is completely free, - you can star wire, bus wire,
or a mixture of both. So it's completely up to you if you want (or don't
want) to put 2 wires to a CBUS unit. Switches have screw terminals that
*can* take 2 CAT5 cables into them, but I prefer to run a single cable to
switch positions, home run back to Node 0 and common them there. CBUS
modules (i.e. dimmers, relays, etc.) mostly use RJ45 sockets, and pretty
much all (in my experience) have 2 RJ45 sockets to facilitate continuing
th=
e
network on to the next unit.

You *can* common the cables at Node 0 pretty much any way you choose, any
convenient terminal block and so on. I believe the best method is to common
up a block of RJ45 sockets on a patch panel, then terminate CBUS cables
wit=
h
an RJ45 plug and use that as a very tidy and convenient connection point.
(DON'T get these ports mixed up with your Ethernet ones though!)

How many burdens you need depends on your CBUS network design. Suffice it
t=
o
say that you need at least 1. I rather suspect that an "average"
UK size
house probably won't need more than 1 however...

I'm not aware of any particular special Clipsal terminal block for CBUS,
bu=
t
it wouldn't surprise me if there was (as you say, for =A3100 of course!),
however, like I already mentioned, any common terminating method is
acceptable as long as the termination is good.

HTH

Paul G.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@yahoogroups. <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
com
[mailto:ukha_d@yahoogroups. <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
com] On Behal=
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> Pete Church
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:01 AM
> To: UKHA_D Group
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Hello All! I'm looking for advice!
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> When you put in the mains rated CAT5 for potential CBUS implementation
do
> you need to put 2 wires to each switch for a daisy-chain of modules or
ca=
n
> you just put in one and link them all up at either Node 0 or other
> convenient location with a terminal block? Does this effect the bus
> performance? Do you need more than one burden? Is there a special
Clipsal
> terminal block to do this (for =A3100+ of course!!!)?
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> Thanks
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> Pete
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@yahoogroups. <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
com
[mailto:ukha_d@yahoogroups. <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
com] On Behal=
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> Chris Hunter
> Sent: 14 January 2007 12:36
> To: ukha_d@yahoogroups. <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
com
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hello All! I'm looking for advice!
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> Having some mains-rated Cat-5 could be good idea... suitably run ...
for
> C-Bus or Idratek ...
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> Chris
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> john855042 wrote:
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> >Hello All,
> >
> >I hope you can offer me some advice as I take my first steps into
the
> >world of home automation!
> >
> >First =13 about me =13 10 years engineering in the following
fields,
> >CCTV, Data networks, Telephone systems, Alarm systems, Distributed
TV
> >systems, Electronic design (embedded controllers). For the last 6
> >years I have been involved in medical instrumentation, but still
keep
> >an active interest in all my old fields. I have currently around
the
> >house 4 PC's not including work laptops, and I have built them all
> >from scratch, and spend a lot of time tinkering. I would hope then
> >that I have at least some of the skills required to design and fit
a
> >HA system!
> >
> >I'm moving into a new house in the coming weeks and I have
realised
> >that all the systems that I want =13 CCTV, Security, Telephone,
Video
> >Door Entry, Distributed AV and Heating control could all be
> >integrated into a HA system. I used to fit most of the above
systems
> >as separate entities so I have my own ideas about the kit required
> >but I need a rethink when it comes to HA.
> >
> >Hopefully someone can offer advice on the best system to use. On
my
> >wishlist =13
> >
> >HDTV in Living room - to have Sky HD and Xbox 360 connected
(xbox360
> >is a MCE client) =13 PIP for video door entry and CCTV events
> >Media Server (MCE/TVersity?)/HA server
> >CCTV (2-3 cameras)
> >Alarm System (panel to interface to HA?)
> >External Lighting & control
> >IP phone system?
> >
> >I want to be able to distribute Sky =13 maybe via IP or Svideo. At
the
> >moment HD will only be in the living room.
> >
> >I would like something like wall mounted `clients' - touchscreen
LCD
> >perhaps, that can interface with the server to control events,
> >display video or send AV to other local displays. I'm thinking of
> >nanoItx PC's with Linux webbrowsers and Lilliput touchscreens.
> >
> >OK- what I really need to know first is what wiring
recommendations
> >should I follow to cover every eventuality. I'm thinking of 2
Cat5e,
> >2 audio, and 3 or 4 RG59's to every client point from the patch
> >panel. I don't want to have to pull up floorboards and chase walls
> >twice. (my wife wouldn't stand for it!)
> >Also any suggestions on the viability and software choices of my
> >project would be welcome.
> >
> >Thanks in anticipation,
> >
> >John
> >
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