Re: 3G radios/CDMA sunset

[ABLE1 <somewhere@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 9/14/2019 1:11 AM, Hogan wrote:
> Well, I did a little studying and research, as I had figured that there was a lot of smoke/mirrors involved as well as hype in regards to the coming 5G.
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> 1. Yes, 3G is going away and Verizon's date is end of December, 2022; while ATT's date appears to be early 2022. Now this is only for existing radios already online, not new radios.
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> 2. There are billions of dollars involved here for the selling of the new technology hardware, and there is also of lot of false end dates perpetrated in order to sell, sell, sell new hardware.
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> 3. 5G will arrive to the masses someday, but not as fast as it has been portrayed by persons who are in the business of selling.
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> 4. Verizon is the only carrier that actually has 5G deployed and that is in -2- cities in the US. Yes, 2 whole cities, and only in certain areas of those cities.
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> 5. 4G LTE phones will not work on 5G. 5G phones are to be backward compatible since it is going to take a lot of time (as in many years) and money to completely switch to 5G. So, for those who think that they are insured by going to LTE, are mistaken.
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> 6. 2G is still existing for specific devices and uses, so 3G in some form will still be in use also past "the date", again for specific devices.
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> 7. There is a new company who has spent a lot of money developing a device that plugs into an outlet, which converts the 3G signals of the premise radio into 4G signals out to the 'Expanse'. A converter! Not a well known fact as there is a lot less money involved for the 'End of the 3G World' peddler folks. And yes, it is made for alarm panels. The technology is 3G to 4G conversion. It is kind of like taking AM radio signals and just converting them to FM. Now everyone knows that AM to FM conversion is not rocket science. Well neither is 3G to 4G. There is just a lot of licensing and fees and time involved. A company called Cellbounce at cellbounce.com is doing just that. Rather than give you more facts, just go there and read it for yourself.
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> The founder is Mike Lamb who came up with Street Smart. He made 175 Wireless products for Honeywell in Security and HVAC; Founder of Secure Wireless and Advanced Bridging Technologies. Designed over 250 wireless products for DSC/Tyco, GE, UTC, 2GIG, Nortek, Vivint. Founded Ecolink and designed products for Comcast, RING, Pella, and has 27 Patents.
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> I'd say he probably knows what he is doing...
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> 8. Alula is claiming that their newest radios will be able to 'evolve' without having to buy some newer technology at a yet further date in the future. That is what I was told in a telephone conversation with someone very high up in the company. That will need much further evaluation and investigating.
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> The moral of the story is this, I am not jumping on any bandwagon quickly, so that I can rationally assess all of the available options based on real technical information, devoid of sales' lines and tactics.
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> Shoot, I had chosen CDMA radios some years ago, as I mistakenly assumed that CDMA-Code Division Multiple Access, would be impervious to end-of-life obsoletion.
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> Anyone have any further information or available solutions?
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Hogan,

Thanks for the extra input.
Concerning the CellBounce stuff that is not a reality (as yet??)
I wonder if it is just a lot of smoke and mirrors as well.
Like this link.

https://mrprolock.com/cellbounce-solves-massive-3g-cdma-sunset-problem-for-alarm-industry/cellbounce-solves-massive-3g-cdma-sunset-problem-for-alarm-industry-2/

Click on the picture and be sure to read the fine print.  LOL

I realize that it may be a bit early on this CellBounce thingie.
It would be great (maybe) if it will be a reality.
The first question will be; At what price??

Then if one group has supposedly figured out how to do it there
will be others that will claim the same and muddy the waters.

Then the other consideration is that it appears to be a just
plug it in device.  (Consumer Ready Install)  Was noted some
where it is to have battery backup.  What would be reasonable
for the battery life??  How big a battery which has to do with
the overall physical size of the wall wort.

Then where to place it on the property that will give good cell
connection!!  Basement -- 1st Floor -- 2nd Floor -- Attic -- Antennas

Till it is all said and done, it might be better to just change
out the existing to a 4G/LTE and be done with it.

Just my two cents (at this point)  And it is early.................

Later,

Les