Re: Changing the call out phone number??

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On May 30, 8:40=A0am, "AngryOldWhiteGuy"
<AngryOldWhiteGuy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Angry? =A0About a response on an internet newsgroup?? =A0Yeah, sure =A0. =
. .
>
> "Bob La Londe" <onebike...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in messagenews:irv786$9dd$1@d=
ont-email.me...
>
> > "AngryOldWhiteGuy" <AngryOldWhiteGuy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wr=
ote
> > in messagenews:iruofi$52q$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >> "tourman" <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>news:0a8df142-9daa-49df-afdb-9b5418bf6385@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
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> >> On May 29, 2:01 pm, "Bob La Londe" <onebike...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> "Jim" <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >>>news:6ac9d536-aa79-4d71-83b1-e410861d0178@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
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> >>> > On May 27, 8:48 pm, "Bob La Londe" <onebike...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>>>=
>> > "AngryOldWhiteGuy" <AngryOldWhiteGuy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> >> wrote
> >>> >> in messagenews:irodvi$12g$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >>> >> > "G. Morgan" <usenet_ab...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> >> >news:g01tt6p2mg1dnsg8vrq6pfdvv40md11q1i@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> >> AngryOldWhiteGuy Wrote:
>
> >>> >> >>>I have an alarm system that came with the house - we don't have=
 it
> >>> >> >>>monitored, and it's currently showing an amber "Trouble" indica=
tor
> >>> >> >>>because
> >>> >> >>>(so I've been told) there's no call out number that it can
> >>> >> >>>verify - so
> >>> >> >>>I'd
> >>> >> >>>like to set it up so that if there's a condition that'd cause t=
he
> >>> >> >>>system
> >>> >> >>>to
> >>> >> >>>call a monitoring service, I'll get the call on my phone. It's =
a
> >>> >> >>>DSC
> >>> >> >>>Power
> >>> >> >>>832 system - can anyone point me to how I could program it to c=
all
> >>> >> >>>my
> >>> >> >>>phone - if that's not possible, is there any way to eliminate t=
he
> >>> >> >>>condition
> >>> >> >>>that's lighting the trouble light?
>
> >>> >> >> Always willing to help an Angry Old White Guy.
>
> >>> >> >> Unfortunately Sir, the alarm is trying to dial a receiver and
> >>> >> >> changing
> >>> >> >> the number to your own will not help. It will keep on trying to
> >>> >> >> connect
> >>> >> >> to a receiver, and the trouble light will never go away. The
> >>> >> >> trouble
> >>> >> >> you're getting is likely "Failure to communicate".
>
> >>> >> >> Now the next big question, are you comfortable programming this
> >>> >> >> thing?
> >>> >> >> Have you seen the 'installers' manual?
>
> >>> >> >> Since you own the system, you can negotiate a good deal on
> >>> >> >> monitoring
> >>> >> >> from a local dealer or ....
>
> >>> >> >> If not, you may want to contact this fellow (he may be able to
> >>> >> >> dial-in
> >>> >> >> to your system and reprogram it):
>
> >>> >> >> Jim Rojas
> >>> >> >> Technical Manuals Online!
> >>> >> >>http://www.tech-man.com
> >>> >> >> 8002 Cornwall Lane
> >>> >> >> Tampa, FL 33615-4604
> >>> >> >> 813-884-6335
> >>> >> >> 813-440-6653 Fax
> >>> >> >> AOL: rojas813
> >>> >> >> MSN: jimro...@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> >> Yahoo: jimrojas
> >>> >> >> ICQ: 20116219
>
> >>> >> > I am pretty sure that there isn't a dial in capability - I'll ha=
ve
> >>> >> > to
> >>> >> > look
> >>> >> > into re-programming it myself - disabling the dialer shouldn't b=
e
> >>> >> > that
> >>> >> > difficult, huh??
>
> >>> >> D j vu... all over again.-
>
> >>> > I think it's more like V ja doo.
>
> >>> > That's the feeling you get when you don't want to be here again.
>
> >>> Ok, here is the easy way. Remove the two wires in the screw terminals
> >>> marked AC and twist them together. Then cut all the red wires. That
> >>> should
> >>> pretty effectively disable the dialer.
>
> >> RHC: Ok, now that we've all had our fun with you, I'll give you a
> >> straight answer.
>
> >> First off, unless you have the installer code, nothing else I say
> >> matters a damn.
>
> >> Assuming you do, go...*8, installer code to get into programming mode.
> >> Then go into section 015 and turn off the 7 light (this disables
> >> telephone line monitoring). Then go into section 380 and turn 1 light
> >> off. Then pound out =A0(#) and things should work properly, as your
> >> panel will not try to dial out, and the TLM is now disabled (so it
> >> won't look for dial tone and generate a trouble when it doesn't see
> >> that )
>
> >> Thanks for the guidance - I appreciate you sharing your experience wit=
h
> >> me - hopefully, I'll have an opportunity to repay the favor to someone
> >> that needs to know something about which I have experience.
>
> >> And for the other guy that explained "the easy way" - was that fun for
> >> ya???
>
> > Please note that all sentences terminated with the "?" mark are
> > rhetorical.
>
> > So, do you have the installer code? =A0Were you even aware that the
> > installer code is NOT the master code? =A0If so great. =A0If not my way=
 still
> > works. Guaranteed, no more annoying lights. =A0But, I am sure you feel =
you
> > are the smartest guy in the room and you will do as you said:
>
> > " I'll have to look into re-programming it myself =A0- disabling the di=
aler
> > shouldn't be that difficult, huh??" =A0Really? =A0Just like that huh? =
=A0People
> > didn't fall all over themselves to tell you what you wanted to hear, bu=
t
> > told you the truth instead and you don't need any help anyway. =A0Well =
if
> > you didn't need any help anyway why did you bother to ask?
>
> > There is nothing hard about programming many alarm panels, but without =
the
> > installer code you are totally out of luck. =A0Well, you could pull it =
and
> > ship it off to Jima Rojas to be unlocked, but he charges to do that.
>
> > Fun, no. =A0I have seen hundreds if not thousands of guys like you come=
 and
> > go on this newsgroup. =A0D=E9j=E0 vu. =A0All over again...
>
> > Bob La Londe - Real Name
> > Yuma, Arizona - Really were I live
>
> > P.S. =A0So how angry are you?

RHC: Sir, you have to understand the nature of this newsgroup to
appreciate where Bob is coming from. This is a newsgroup populated by
"professionals" in the alarm and security industry. Our mandate is to
assist each other as well as assist people coming here with legitimate
questions about their alarm systems - even when they are DIY'ers (or
others - many of whom have no real business fooling with their alarm
systems when they don't have a clue what they are doing). After 20
years of the same questions from the same type of folks, we (including
me) have become more than a little jaded with always giving out the
same answers to people who (in many cases) shouldn't be messing with
their alarms, ESPECIALLY if they are on line with the authorities.
Most professional alarms are NOT designed for DIY'ers in spite of what
most internet sources may suggest

Speaking only for myself here, I too feel the same way to a large
degree. I get calls from DIY'ers locally who have installed their own
alarms and want me to provide monitoring, and in all cases I refuse.
Many years of inspecting DIY systems has shown in just about all
cases, they are either under or over "engineered", and a "false alarm
waiting to happen". Most of these folks have mastered the "science" of
installing an alarm, but haven't a clue about the "art" portion of
installing an alarm. Nor should they be expected to know this, since
professionals have usually learned much of this through years of
experience on the job, and a lot of "trial and error". However, in
this industry, there are untold "marginal" companies who don't give a
damn and only too glad to take your money. In this business it's
always money before ethics.

But I suspect, NOT most of the regulars on this newsgroup. Thus the
type of answer you got....

We had one regular here (recently deceased) who had an internet site
selling professional quality alarm systems, and who would often
disagree with the majority of posters on this newsgroup. So this
became one "point of contention" for this newsgroup over the years. So
it's all too easy to assume the worst case scenario, as has been done
here.

I guess when we both saw your question, I just had a better day than
Bob did.....:))  (thus my answer.....)