Re: Clipsal Logic Programming - was FirM

["Paul Robinson" <ukcueman@xxxxxxx>]

I'll see what I can find out next week when I go on the course.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Hawkins" <lists@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:18 AM
Subject: Clipsal Logic Programming - was [ukha_d] FirM


> I think this logic operation mainly (only ?) refers to a feature in
the
> dimmers - I haven't used it. In my setup I use xAP of course for all
logic,
> timing, sequencing etc .
>
>
>
> Quoting Clipsal.
>
>             "It is not permitted for a single channel to have
multiple
> associated Group Addresses (because this allows conflicts to develop
very
> easily). Some Clipsal Lighting output units include special group
addresses
> which are allocated to logic functions instead of channels. These
permit
> complex conditions to be set up. However, the use of logic functions
in
> output units is discouraged and is planned to be removed in future
products"
>
> Now I don't know whether this means that future output hardware will
not
> have this functionality or that it will be removed from the
programming
> software meaning you will lose it in existing units. It would seem
there
is
> a much better way of doing this anyway as the logic functions are as
you
say
> limited.
>
> At the UKHA meeting the Clipsal guy talked about C-Bus 3 - later this
year
> - I am not convinced he meant this - and I think he was referring to
the
V3
> release of the programming software - currently at v2.6 or above. He
said
> that all recently shipped hardware already has support inbuilt for V3
and
> would work transparently. I look forward to seeing what new bits are
in
> there.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:fmcalind@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 03 June 2003 08:12
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] FirM
>
>
>
> Hi Kevin / Dean
>                 I was referring to the Dimmer Logic...as i understand
it
> (not having done the C_Bus course) you can only assign a group once
(to a
> key input) ..I needed to have some of my lights controlled by key
inputs
as
> well as pir,s via aux inputs so i have logically ored both inputs in
the
> Dimmer logic programming..........Have a look at the link...
>
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/armagh/page46.html
>
> HTH
>
> Frank
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Kevin Hawkins
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:14 AM
>   Subject: RE: [ukha_d] FirM
>
>
>   Frank - tell me a little more about what you mean here - do you mean
the
>   logic functions within the software programming and if so what in
> particular
>   - I haven't used this bit too much
>
>
>
>   - and I suspect the xAP interface would resolve all that for you
wouldn't
> it
>   ??
>
>
>
>   Kevin
>
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:fmcalind@xxxxxxx]
>   Sent: 02 June 2003 08:16
>
>   >I'm getting C-Bus and am convinced HomeBrain will serve me
better. From
>   >talking to David Buckley at UKHA2003, it looks like HomeBrain
will be
> able
>   >to do this out of the box because it has digital IO ports that
can be
> used
>   >for this.
>
>   Good Stuff ;-))HomeBrain sounds quite good nice to see a UK HA
product...
>
>   Although im not sure if you have  been shown the logic programming
for
>   C_Bus...at the moment its a little limited IMHO......