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Re: Newbie Again



HI Alex ... I made an error on IRC there ... as far as I can tell you
still need the XM10U with HV. That's the bit that allows it to say hi to
all those loverly X10 modules ;-)

Hall, Alex wrote:

> Thanks for the responses so far...
>
> So I am scrapping the dimmers possibly - need to do a bit more
research on
> this.
>
> 10002	LD10 DIN Mounted Lamp Module (LD11 Internal Software)
> £34.99 * 14
> 10455	DIN Enclosure for 1 x LD10/LD11
> £17.63 * 14
> 10 * 1 gang faceplates
> 3 * 2 gang faceplates
>
> and replacing them with something like:
>
> 10030	APPLIANCE SWITCH AW10U (Requires NEUTRAL Wire)	£30
>
> however my switches are unlikely to have a neutral wire ??? and also
some
> likes the stairs/landing switches are 2 gang ???
> Which the AW10U isn't ? And I'd like a brass coloured switches.
>
>
> Also as I am going for HomeVision I don't need the IR7243AH. Correct ?
>
> Do I need the XM10U ?
>
> And then add 2* the number of cat5 lines/ports.
>
> and finally some IR repeaters when Ian has finished them :-)
>
> and probably not bother with the WS10's either.
>
> thanks so far
>
> alex
>
>
>>
>>> flooring down and fit LV lighting,
>>
>> LV lighting does not mix well with X10 dimming. Basically the
>> transformers
>> don't like it and may fail, catch fire if you try it. They
>> are fine with
>> appliance type modules as these are straight on/off. Mains
>> voltage halogens
>> are fine for dimming.
>>
>>
>>> In essence I am looking to have a small internal network
>>
>> 1-2 data ports in
>>
>>> each room, and then be able to connect
>>
>> tv/satellite/dvd/video around the
>>
>> Fit more CAT5 cable and ports and then double it. Pretty much
>> everything can
>> run over CAT5 including all you telly requirements - see Kat5
>> from Keith
>> Doxey.
>>
>>
>>> 95000	Pronto RU890 Remote & RU941 Docking Station
>>
>> (Package Price)
>>
>>> £179.95
>>> 10512	IR7243AH All House Code IR->X10 Converter for
>>
>> Pronto/RC5000
>>
>>> £72.85
>>> 10215	XM10U (TW7223) X10 -> Mains Interface
>>> £30
>>
>> All good choices
>>
>>
>>> 10003	HomeVision Home Automation Controller 3.0 PAL
>>
>> 		£440
>>
>> Go for the standalone unit. It is small and under normal
>> circumstances one
>> of the most reliable bits of kit you can buy today. Budget
>> for an expansion
>> board in the future as that is great as well. Temperature
>> input via Dallas
>> thingies (1820s) and the analogue port etc.
>>
>>
>>> Then, in terms of the house I am looking at fitting low
>>
>> voltage lighting
>>
>>> throughout which means:
>>>
>>> Room		Dimmers	Data Ports/TV-AV Ports
>>> Lounge		2 gang		2/2
>>> Dining Room	1		2/1
>>> Hallway		2 gang		2/1
>>> CloakRoom	1
>>> Kitchen		1		2/1
>>> FamilyRoom	1		2/1
>>>
>>> Bedroom1	1		2/2
>>> Bedroom2	1		2/1
>>> Bedroom3	1		2/1
>>> Bedroom4	1		2/1
>>> Bathroom	1
>>> Ensuite		1
>>> Landing		2 gang		2/1
>>>
>>> Does this therefore mean that I need 14 of the following for
the
>>> Low Voltage
>>> Lighting?
>>>
>>> 10002	LD10 DIN Mounted Lamp Module (LD11 Internal Software)
>>> £34.99 * 14
>>> 10455	DIN Enclosure for 1 x LD10/LD11
>>> £17.63 * 14
>>> 10 * 1 gang faceplates
>>> 3 * 2 gang faceplates
>>>
>>> Is there a cheaper source for brass faceplate dimmers as
>>
>> 10070/1 is > £70
>>
>>> each ?
>>>
>>> In order to do the Data Ports/TV-AV ports I am guessing I need
>>> around 2.5km
>>> of cat5e wiring ? Does that sound correct.
>>> Also where is a good place to purchase this (I live near
Windsor)?
>>>
>>> I also presume I will need to grab some Kat5 widget thingies
so I
>>> can run AV
>>> over the cat5e? Is that the generally recommended way now ?
>>>
>>
>> See notes at the beginning!!!
>>
>>
>>> Ok also needed will be:
>>>
>>> crimping tool - yes
>>> IR detector - any suggestions which one ? detector??
>>> patch panel - any suggestions which one ? - lets automate
>>
>> ones are a good
>> price although I have never seen one in the flesh.
>>
>>> patch panel leads - yes
>>> and then a mixture of AM12/LM12/AW10 for the mains electrics.
- yes
>>> Whats people's view on the WS10, its much more expensive so
>>
>> is it worth it
>> ? - pass
>>
>>
>>> Anything else I missed, any other recomendations?
>>
>> You may want to think about IR distribution. I am developing
>> some PIC based
>> IR repeaters and Keith is working on IR return for KAT5. Mine
>> will need
>> about 5 lines in a CAT5 cable between A and B.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
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