RE: Yahoo Situation - WAS - RE: Re: OT: Test Again

["Keith Doxey" <ukha@xxxxxxx>]

This is something that is going to be very difficult to resolve.

To confirm what Ken said here are some stats I ran on the members list
yesterday.

DeliveryMethod		Members

No Email			367
Individual Emails		349
Daily Digest		103
Special Notices		52

The fact that 367 members of this list do not receive any email means one
of
two things, either a lot of people dont hear a lot of what happens ( which
may account for why we never hear from some of them ) OR they ONLY use the
Web Interface.

Since the Nimda Virus caused such chaos about 18 months ago, different
companies have clamped down on internet usage in different way. Some people
can no longer access their private email from work either by POP3 or
Webmail
interfaces (that is the case for me), some people can no longer visit
websites such as Yahoo.

Various people have posted about the different ports that are blocked from
their workplaces, we have proxy servers and webscanners that display a
stern
warning about misuse of the internet and log access attempts to unapproved
sites. What is really annoying is that although some sites I visit for
legitimate purposes are OK, the popups launched by them are on the
"verbotten" list :-(

Whatever solution we search for NEEDS to supply MOST of the features that
Yahoo does. Given the destructive power of many of the viruses out there
now
and in the future we need to be very careful about what we decide to do.

The LAST thing we want is to have to have two solutions...

UKHA_MailingList for those who prefer mail
UKHA_WebForum for those who want or need a web interface

Yahoo was very good, it is now not so good but it may be because it is a
victim of its own success.

Mark is looking for alternatives so I think we should let this rest for a
while and anyone who finds a possible solution should send it directly to
Mark for evaluation.

Keith

www.diyha.co.uk
www.kat5.tv


-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Watt [mailto:kwatt@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 28 February 2003 09:22
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Yahoo Situation - WAS - RE: Re: OT: Test Again


> I know that is may be a radical idea, but could we consider moving to
a
> 'message board' system like avforums?

No, about 50% are web access and 50% mail so by doing that you would
alienate or p1ss off 50% of the people using the group, so it's really
not an option. Both mails *and* web access is needed whatever way it
goes and a lot of the controls would be nice as well. The moderator
controls are there with good reason and few services seem to offer the
options that Yahoo does, I know something could be configured to suit
out purpose but that means time, which in turn means money. One of the
biggest advantages of the way things are at the moment is that lack of
SPAM, other than Yahoo's which we cannot do much about, banning of
attachments and other niceties which, since they were implemented by
Mark last year have made a hell of a difference IMO.

K.



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