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RE: HomeVision or other?
Hi
keith, I'm not sure on the Leopard / Ocelot question but can offer some
thoughts
on the pronto..
>How good
is
the a Pronto? does it have ALL the commands for my Sony 940
Receiver/Amp?
It is superb, and as it is a learning remote, it
will
learn any command from your existing kit (apart from some higher frequency
equipment such as B&O and some cable Tv
boxes).
>Are
macros
assignable to on screen buttons for single hit
use?
The
biggest selling point of the pronto is the fact that it is programmed by
you, so
single buttons can perform quite complex macros...
>Pointers to useful Pronto web sites would be
good.
There
are other learning remotes available, but none of them cone close to the
pronto
for flexibility.
HTH
Daniel
I
was
looking at getting the Leopard. But it seems that there is little
capability to
use it as anything other
than
an input device, ie, it would be nice to send messages from the PC to
display on
the screen but
this
does not seem possible unless the message is pre-programmed into the
Leopard.
So, I
was thinking that using a pronto, plus an Ocelot would be better, then any
HA
control would be recieved
as IR
commands from the pronto.
Does
this seem like a sensible aproach?
How
good is the a Pronto? does it have ALL the commands for my Sony
940
Receiver/Amp?
Are
macros assignable to on screen buttons for single hit
use?
Pointers to useful Pronto web sites would be
good.
And
what about alternatives to the Pronto? or different approaches to the
combining
remotes and HA control problem?
Cheers
Keith
I took a look at HV's current price and it does
seem
more expensive than I remember. The differential is quite significant
now.
You can compare the hardware features yourself I guess
from
the specs so here's some comments on the software side.
The Ocelot is the brains behind the Leopard
controller and is well produced and professional product (IMO). I use the
Leopard and I am happy with it, but I find it awkward. A lot of my
criticisms
are to do with the specific capabilities of the Touch screen interface and
the
ongoing development of the product and hence don't apply to the Ocelot.
Basically little appears to be happening in terms of new features but what
you
do have works well. The programming environment for the Ocelot is quite
different to HomeVision - much more like a programming language and that
may
or may not be an advantage to you. I suggest you download the software
which
is available on the web site and try it and see what you think. It can be
used
without the Ocelot connected. In addition I suspect the amount of code
space
inside the Ocelot is much less than with HV and requires much more skill to
code in a complex environment. There is a well supported mail list for this
however. Homeseer supports Ocelot directly.
HomeVision - which I use too - is my choice of HV
controller. I find it easy to use and incredibly powerful, it has a busy
mail
list supporting it and Craig does an exemplary job. In fact he and Dan
Hoehnen (ACE author) are my nominations for the best support Oscars. I find
it
much easier to add things quickly into HV and to understand things
later
on when I've forgotten why I did such and such. This allows for more ad hoc
experimentation & less planning is required (but not recommended). The
programming environment can also be downloaded from CSI's site and works
without HV so have a look and see - it is a much more graphic environment.
In
addition the HomeVision application links up with ACE etc via DDE to
provide a
very tightly integrated solution. The ACE / Homeseer integration is much
more
of a programming interface (COM).
In the USA there is also a product called HomeVision PC
available which is lower cost - the main difference being it is a card
sitting
in a PC so it requires a permanently powered PC.
My recommendation ?? HV every time but that's being a
little
insensitive to the now much larger price difference than I had expected, so
you takes your choice I guess... If you will use TV display then the HV of
course is a certain choice.
Kevin
[[K]]
-----Original
Message----- From: Andy Laurence
[mailto:andylaurence@xxxxxxx] Sent: 22 February 2002
16:46 To: ukha_d@xxxxxxxSubject: [ukha_d]
Homevision or other?
I
suppose it'll be time for me to splash out on an HA controller of
some description soon. I've been looking around at the
possibles. I've seen this (http://www.letsautomate.com/10599.cfm?CFID=432&CFTOKEN=51078446)
which seems to do quite a lot for not a lot of money.
I'm after
something which will do X10, IR and possibly control things via relays
(no idea what yet). Bear in mind that I run a server 24/7 at
home, and have another which can do the same. What would I be
missing out on if I bought the above rather than HomeVision? I
know
I'd lose the TV interface of HomeVision, but that doesn't bother
me. Are there other alternatives?
Andy -- PC-Based
Multimedia System http://www.andylaurence.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pcbmms
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