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RE: Ceiling Lights & Local Control


  • To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: Ceiling Lights & Local Control
  • From: "Kenneth Watt" <kennwatt@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 18:37:15 -0000
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  • Reply-to: ukha_d@xxxxxxx

Who said I was rough? ;-)

To be honest the modules were left out in the loft uncovered, but then
so was half the mains wiring for the house where it was joined, I fail
to see any difference. Any modules I have now are either in a housing or
in the main box in the loft so no problems now.

The one I had in the cavity wall was sitting on a dwang and was very
content there for at least 18 months with a blanking plate to cover the
hole, the module rested on the dwang and the "customised"
fast-fix box
that allowed the blanking plate to be fixed.

To be honest I would see more of a heat problem occurring in the
enclosed space of one of the housings as there is less airflow to the
main body of the module. The primary reason for fitting some of the
single DIN enclosures in the new house was one of safety where wiring
could be reached under normal conditions as, personally; I don't like
getting a mains jolt ;-) My problem in the old house was the same as
Doogie's is now, without a major "ripping the house apart"
exercise it
was either this way or no way, I opted for the former.

As for water ingress if it's gonna happen then it's gonna happen! The
single DIN enclosures *do* offer some protection from this, certainly
more than the module sitting without one, but not too much, especially
in an enclosed environment which you would have to assess the risk
factor for yourself. But this must also be taken into account when
fitting a module in an enclosure as well, it is pretty much a
non-starter to install *any* mains devices under a shower or a bath for
example! Also as you and I have both pointed out, some form of access is
needed just in case something does go wrong.

I say again...have you seen what *trained* sparks do!? We work for many
a famous builder and let me just say I have never nor will ever ask any
of those guys to work in my house. I *thought* I was rough!

Basically IMHO, apply a liberal dose of common sense and you should be
okay regardless of how it looks, let's face it you don't want to see an
X10 module anyway and the point of this exercise is to hide the things!

K.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alancc [mailto:alan.cc@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 18 February 2002 17:39
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Ceiling Lights & Local Control
>
> They should really go in an enclosure, its like using plastic
connectors
> rather than a proper joint box, the  inner sheath of the cables should
not
> be exposed outside of an enclosure.
> And don't just chuck it up there, take pride in your work boy, screw
the
> enclosure to a timber and keep it above the insulation or it will
> overheat,
> try and put it near the trap or so you can get at it when the fuse
blows,
> you don't want to be grovelling around up there in your PJs when the
bulb
> goes on the way to bed.
>
> Alancc





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